SYMBiFACE III

[XeNoMoRPH]

Un nuevo hardware acecha al CPC .. en esta ocasión parece ser el SYMBiFACE III ... por el momento solo se sabe esto:

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USB mass storage device FAT32 is tested with an speed of 700Kb/sec
USB wireless mouse
512 KB RAM
RTC + batt.
OLED display
All this functions are tested by SymbOS
Drivers are written through Prodatron

[url]http://www.tmtlogic.com/[/url]

[XeNoMoRPH]

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[Poliyo]

Suena interesante.
Pero tengo una duda.
Eso funciona bajo symbos. Pero bajo amsdos o bajo CP/M? No sé si han habido versiones anteriores y eran compatibles.

[XeNoMoRPH]

Suena interesante.
Pero tengo una duda.
Eso funciona bajo symbos. Pero bajo amsdos o bajo CP/M? No sé si han habido versiones anteriores y eran compatibles.

He encontrado este video antiguo

[Poliyo]

Muy interesante, una pena que en mi móvil se vea del culo.
A ver si luego desde mi portátil lo veo pero a priori parece funcionar bajo amsdos... Chachi...

[TFM]

Yes, but the video was from SF2. The SF3 seems to use other I/O ports as far as I did read.

[deepfb]

He encontrado este video antiguo

BonnyDos lo puedes usar también con la X-Mass; y entiendo que AcmeDOS se podría utilizar con el Symbiface II, aunque no lo llegué a probar. Lo que no sé qué pasa es si le pones AcmeDOS o BonnyDos a una M4 xD

Y no creo que tu móvil tenga toda la culpa de que el vídeo no se vea mal, Poliyo: es que lo hice con una de las primeras cámaras de fotos digitales que grababan vídeo, una que no daba mucha resolución xD

Por otro lado, y como dice Stefan, el Symbiface III hace otras cosas, tiene otras funcionalidades (Jorn no ha dirigido directamente su desarrollo, como pasó con el SFII, sino que es obra de un holandés, creo que es el que hace también tarjetas adaptadoras MSX-CPC-Enterprise): el SFIII tiene una pantalla (no sé para qué), y ya no monta interfaz IDE, si no que se le conecta directamente un USB.

Qué fijación tuve en su día con conseguir un disco duro para el CPC: la de pasta que hubiera dado por un Dobbertin. Luego salió la SFII, y se me pasó la desazón, y después la M4 y el X-Mass, y se me quitó del todo. Entiendo que hay gente que no ha tenido acceso a un SFII, y que le viene muy bien este nuevo lanzamiento, pero creo que yo me voy a dar mus, a no ser que este SFIII incluya algo realmente cojonudo que aún no conocemos. Bueno, en realidad me valdría con que tuviera uno o dos puertos X4 libres, para pinchar por ejemplo una tarjeta gráfica :D

Y aún así, lo que sigo esperando con auténtica ansia es el X-CPC. A ver si Richard se da un poco de vida con ello :D

[XeNoMoRPH]

Buena explicación deepfb .. yo también estoy esperando al X-CPC

[TFM]

Good thing is that now we have plenty of hardware expansions. In the late 90ies and 2000's was not much to get.

[TFM]

Just a comment about the SF2. Today the story is not told so true. We had a team back the day to develop the SF2. However PDT finally prefinanced the whole first batch of the SF2 production.

Also there was never a SF1. The predecessor was the CPC-IDE. It's hardware (like the SF2) was made by Dr.Zed. This guy I brought over to the CPC and we made the FuturePlayer, the CPC-IDE came later on. Also I brought Tolkin and Octoate in the team (all had a IDE prototype). So the idea was to focus on one card and not to have too many different solutions. PDT joined the team later and helped financially to realize the SF2, which could have been even better, but at this time Dr. Zed and PDT decided to do it alone. We other kind of still feel it was somehow a dirty story, but one can't live in the past. So I hope that the SF3 will be awesome and will provide information for coders too.

[XeNoMoRPH]

Any news about SF3 ?

[deepfb]

Also there was never a SF1. The predecessor was the CPC-IDE. It's hardware (like the SF2) was made by Dr.Zed. This guy I brought over to the CPC and we made the FuturePlayer, the CPC-IDE came later on. Also I brought Tolkin and Octoate in the team (all had a IDE prototype). So the idea was to focus on one card and not to have too many different solutions. PDT joined the team later and helped financially to realize the SF2, which could have been even better, but at this time Dr. Zed and PDT decided to do it alone. We other kind of still feel it was somehow a dirty story, but one can't live in the past. So I hope that the SF3 will be awesome and will provide information for coders too. O:)

We had some hard-drive projects running at that time. I remember a CPC-Isa that would have allowed to connect an IDE controller to the CPC, among other ISA cards -and there was also a plan to clone the Dobbertin hard drive using up-to-date electronics and recycling X-DDOS into it. Symbiface II was the succesful one and it worked flawlessly; had you taken part in its development have produced a different outcome, I am sure -and you had the chance to 'fork' that project with the members that remained, isn't it?. But as you say, I wouldn't stuck in the past, evenmore when Prodatron is not reading this topic, so he can not tell his side :D

Btw, when TFM refers to 'PDT' he means Prodatron. I think spanish users would not know him by that alias, and for castellano speakers PDT does not sound very good: if you read it straight on, it means "small fart" xD

Por cierto, cuando TFM se refiere a PDT está hablando de Prodatron, al que he aludido como Jorn en un mensaje anterior. Le comento que para los castellano parlantes, lo de PDT suena un poco raro xD

[XeNoMoRPH]

Si , prodaton , me sonaba a mi también

Hardware:
The SF3 v2.0 has:

2MB Ram
512k Rom
MP3 Chip (player works with Symbos)
RTC + battery
WIFI
1x USB Fat32
1x USB for Hid mouse
1x SD card for internal storage (ini file update files etc.)
2x8 Vu leds
OLED 128/32 with 3 Buttons
BUZZER
ROM enable switch
DFU switch for manual update
Main power (5v) analog meeting
Connector for debug information FTDI

not tested:

MP3 recording

[TFM]

Well, good news. I got docs for the SF3, so I can support it too

[TFM]

I am sure -and you had the chance to 'fork' that project with the members that remained, isn't it?. But as you say, I wouldn't stuck in the past, evenmore when Prodatron is not reading this topic, so he can not tell his side

Well, I'm confident he is reading everything CPC. And in this case I'm also pretty sure that he has the same opinion. But back to topic, the SF3 is evolving pretty quick and I'm happy to see a release next year.
Also, I already created functions for FutureOS to upload it into the SF3 and to deal with its Read-Time-Clock (they are not tested of course).